Yeah I get you, its a touchy subject for all of us I think. I thought of that snus stuff they're bringing out but just cant do it, first off one tobacco habit is enough for me and second I'm a chick, a tough chick who already gets mistaken for a lesbian because I'm not a teeheecheerleader type or even the metal slut groupie type, but the dont give a shit about the clothes type. Torn camos are great for metal shows and my skull clunker boots are just too cool not to wear so I guess that makes me gay, LOL Now just imagine I add to that a big ole chaw in my lip! I shouldnt care I guess but the clothes are things that make me comfortable, I dont think snus or snuff fits that category for me.
Oh yeah, let me be PC again so I wont piss anyone off, Got nothing against gay people but I'm not one and I just hate when people assume I am. Hell not sure why it matters anyway unless they want to pick me up in which case, have balls and ask

Oh yeah, there's the rude talk and rough attitude as well

so if theyre trying to pick me up, Im there for the music not to get laid so hope they dont get offended when I tell them to fuck off, LOL
but the gay thing is a whole nuther issue we can fight and argue about if we all get tired of this one heck bet we could come up with a bunch of them! Remember the day when metal brought everyone together? Back when all metalheads were outcasts so we banded together, didnt matter if you smoked or not, druggies and nonusers didnt judge each other by their habits, things like politics didnt come up, race wasnt an issue, not many blacks were into it but I think the ones that were were easily accepted and maybe even a bit admired. The gay thing wasnt really open then too much but there were a few and the metalheads I knew didnt judge them for that. It was only the music that mattered.
So what happened? I guess after banding together and forming a community of our own human nature took over and we had to start creating a class system of our own. There wasn't just metal anymore, it got split into sub-genres like thrash, Glam, speed, etc and the fans of each separated themselves and considered "their metal" being best and the rest sucked. They started tossing insults at the other fan groups - "Poison suxx, glam is for fags" "Thrash is no talent noise for neanderthals" and so on. And that leads to where we are now. I miss "Metal"

dont you dare ask what kind of metal!
See I'm long winded too, very sleep deprived right now, somewhere around 67hrs with only 3hrs of sleep (no drugs) It does resemble drugs for me though and since I'm mostly clean its almost fun. The mind goes strange places, gets philisophical, contemplates strange things, gets nostalgic and even convinces itself it knows how to fix the world, a bit of fun but now I guess I'll sleep a couple hours anyway and regain a bit of reality!